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Every now and then, I like to hop into the wayback machine and share a fresh listen to conversations that influenced our current times. The one you are going to register to today was recorded live in 2014 from DIEM, Design Intersects Everything Made symposium presented by the West Hollywood Design District featuring Frances Anderton, then with KCRW ad Jeff Denby, co-founder and then with Pact. A clothing brand you will be hearing more about. 

The following conversation was focused on values based capitalism, an economic model with which places value on profit generation that also generates positive social impact.

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As you listen to this chat between Frances and Jeff, you might notice the “feel-good” vibes and high ideals that come from a focus on values based consumerism patterns. Buy well-made products that come from sustainably based materials and made by people who are valued to those producing the products and then by those who buy the product. At the time of this recording, this idea was catching on and even now, companies that have a value-system connected directly to products speak openly about the social capital being generated. I would argue we hear far less now because sustainability has been linked politically to DEI, and there is a group of people who see that has more of a social ill, than a societal benefit. I’m not here to change any minds, only share different perspectives. And this is one worth sharing with the hope that it will make a return, not just in fashion or consumer packaged goods, but in the home decor and architectural materials sectors.

Consumer Awareness Evolution

How Whole Foods and the food industry educated consumers about product origins.

Extension of that curiosity to body care and apparel: understanding what goes on the skin and into daily wear.

The role of design in making sustainable products attractive and desirable.

Philanthropy and Social Impact

Early collaborations with nonprofits through limited-edition collections and direct aid.

Shift toward improving the lives of workers within the supply chain.

Emphasis on economic, environmental, and social impact as part of the business model.

Challenges of Domestic Manufacturing

Difficulties of reviving large-scale apparel production domestically, including labor costs, fractured supply chains, and compliance issues.

Comparison with global supply chains and the decision to work where systems already exist.

Insights from attempts at localized production and the challenges of sustainable sourcing.

Product Expansion and Market Strategy

Focus on apparel basics for the emerging generation of socially conscious consumers.

Building a generational brand by appealing to evolving values.

Commitment to price accessibility while maintaining sustainability and ethical production.

Supply Chain Ethics and Certification

Working exclusively with certified factories and farms to ensure fair labor practices.

Ensuring worker protections and representation, including female supervisors.

Direct engagement with farmers and supply chain partners to secure market access and stability.

Sustainability and Waste Management

Recycling factory scraps and leftover materials into new products.

Finding secondary uses for garment remnants, including mattress filling.

Factories incentivized to reduce waste as part of both economic and environmental sustainability.

Consumer Education and Transparency

Educating customers about the human and environmental story behind clothing.

Leveraging social media, coalition branding, and events to communicate supply chain practices.

Positioning Pact as a non-toxic apparel brand with safe-for-skin products.

Research and Industry Collaboration

Participation in textile and sustainability coalitions with like-minded brands.

Supporting the growth of organic cotton farming and sustainable supply chains.

Promoting transparency in manufacturing practices and educating the public on chemical exposure in conventional apparel.

Ethical apparel requires intentional design, transparent supply chains, and collaboration across the industry.

Consumers increasingly demand products that are safe, well-designed, and socially responsible.

Philanthropy is most effective when integrated into the core business, benefiting both workers and communities.

Scaling sustainability in mass-market apparel is challenging but possible with careful planning, partnerships, and public education.

Conscious Basics: How Textiles Can Be Ethical, Sustainable, and Stylish

In an era when consumers increasingly demand transparency and ethical responsibility, Pact is reshaping the apparel industry by marrying sustainability, social impact, and thoughtful design. Co-founder Jeff Denby spoke with Frances Anderton in 2014 about the philosophy behind the brand, tracing a journey from organic cotton farms in India to certified factories in Turkey, all with the goal of delivering high-quality, accessible clothing that respects both people and the planet.

Denby notes that consumer awareness has evolved in stages. Shoppers first became curious about food origins, learning that groceries come from farms, not just shelves. This consciousness extended to body care products, as people began asking what they were putting on their skin. Apparel is the next frontier. “People want to know what they’re wearing every day,” Denby explains. “They want products that are beautifully designed, sustainable, and safe, without having to reinvent what underwear or socks should look like.”

Early in Pact’s history, the company experimented with philanthropic partnerships, designing collections that supported nonprofit causes. These initiatives provided aid to communities abroad, from distributing lanterns in Haiti to rebuilding community centers in Japan. However, Denby realized the brand could make a deeper impact by focusing inward—supporting the lives of the workers who create the products. By investing in stable, ethical supply chains, Pact achieves a triple bottom line: economic, social, and environmental benefits.

Reviving large-scale apparel manufacturing in the United States proved impractical for Pact. Labor costs, fractured supply chains, and limited domestic processing infrastructure made it impossible to produce affordable basics at scale. Instead, the brand partnered with existing factories abroad, ensuring they meet strict certifications such as the Global Organic Textile Standard. Denby emphasizes that these certifications guarantee fair labor practices, gender equity, and safe working conditions—factors often overlooked in conventional apparel production.

Beyond ethical sourcing, Pact prioritizes product safety and environmental responsibility. Cotton cultivation and traditional textile processing can involve significant pesticide use and harmful chemicals. Pact works with organic cotton farmers and certified dye houses, eliminating heavy metals and carcinogens from their products. Waste management is also integral; leftover yarn and fabrics are recycled into new garments or repurposed for other industries, demonstrating that sustainability extends from field to factory to finished product.

Denby envisions Pact as the “basics brand for the change generation,” appealing to consumers who value ethics, transparency, and design. The brand is part of a coalition with other sustainable apparel companies, collaborating to secure fair market access for farmers, grow organic cotton production, and educate the public on the human stories behind clothing. Social media and events provide direct channels to communicate these values, allowing consumers to engage with the brand and understand the people and processes behind the garments they wear.

For Pact, the mission goes beyond selling clothing. It is about proving that everyday apparel can be ethical, well-designed, and accessible, while creating meaningful social impact. By integrating philanthropy, sustainability, and consumer education into the business model, Pact is showing that the basics—underwear, socks, and t-shirts—can carry a powerful message: that fashion can be responsible, thoughtful, and inclusive.